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Eileen31

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:10am

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Location: Es Castell

Joined: 3 Sep 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:10am

AVine wrote on Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:40am:

Hi thank you for your response, hopefully something will be agreed along those lines. We did wonder if it was possible to obtain a temporary residency, which from what I have read allows you to stay indefinitely for up to 1 or 2 years as say a student does. 

I have not heard about a temporary visa so cannot comment on that.

I had heard unofficially that Spain is working with the U.K. and will not make it difficult for life to continue with people who have homes and visit the country.

Eileen31

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:11am

Posts: 8

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Location: Es Castell

Joined: 3 Sep 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:11am

Eileen31 wrote on Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:10am:

I have not heard about a temporary visa so cannot comment on that.

I had heard unofficially that Spain is working with the U.K. and will not make it difficult for life to continue with people who have homes and visit the country.

Sorry temporary residency 

Timtimbles

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:17am

Posts: 76

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Location: Addaia

Joined: 9 Jun 2018

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:17am

That won’t be possible, you will either have to become residents and pay your taxes in Spain or stick to the 90 day rule I’m afraid.

Tamara

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:29am

Posts: 59

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Location: Son Bou

Joined: 27 Apr 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:29am

Honestly you would not believe this.  I tried to get back to menorca because my daughter was stuck in the house , no money and no food and all my flights I had been cancelled due to the virus.  My residencia card was not sufficient enough to get to my home. I had to email the ayuntamiento to send a copy of my address which was the one thing I needed to get back here . I phoned the spanny embassy in London and they said I could get back to menorca with this piece of green little paper that has really had it's days. I would of been rejected without the padrón , the empadronamiento. A certicate that says you live here. Otherwise I might of been turned away and sent back to England. If you really want to get your residencias then I will help you but if your being told you have to go to mahon and not the ayuntamiento in your area then I presume you have to go to mahon.  It can be done and you pay something like a few euros paid from an account for a document then back to the office to queue again. Haha

AVine

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:30am

AVine

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Posts: 7

Location: Salgar

Joined: 21 Sep 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:30am

Eileen31 wrote on Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:10am:

I have not heard about a temporary visa so cannot comment on that.

I had heard unofficially that Spain is working with the U.K. and will not make it difficult for life to continue with people who have homes and visit the country.

I think we might just have to hold our breath and hope it’s a positive outcome for all of us, I don’t think spend anymore time worrying about it ! 

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AVine

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:38am

AVine

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Location: Salgar

Joined: 21 Sep 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:38am

Tamara wrote on Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:29am:

Honestly you would not believe this.  I tried to get back to menorca because my daughter was stuck in the house , no money and no food and all my flights I had been cancelled due to the virus.  My residencia card was not sufficient enough to get to my home. I had to email the ayuntamien...

...to to send a copy of my address which was the one thing I needed to get back here . I phoned the spanny embassy in London and they said I could get back to menorca with this piece of green little paper that has really had it's days. I would of been rejected without the padrón , the empadronamiento. A certicate that says you live here. Otherwise I might of been turned away and sent back to England. If you really want to get your residencias then I will help you but if your being told you have to go to mahon and not the ayuntamiento in your area then I presume you have to go to mahon.  It can be done and you pay something like a few euros paid from an account for a document then back to the office to queue again. Haha

Hi Tamara thank you for your reply, we already have a “certificat d’empadronament” issued from sant lluis townhall and we have NIE certificates but various people keep telling me that is not enough, I’m confused ! 

Timtimbles

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:37pm

Posts: 76

30 helpful points

Location: Addaia

Joined: 9 Jun 2018

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:37pm

AVine wrote on Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:38am:

Hi thank you for your response but if it was that easy wouldn’t all U.K. citizens just carry in doing that instead of treading a minefield to try and sort some kind of residency status out 

Exactly. Why do we have to put in Advanced Passenger Information. With bio-metric passports, they know everything. I certainly wouldn’t like to be stopped at the airport for overstaying my time and either be deported, fined or stopped from coming back again. 

MNS

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:02am

MNS

Posts: 6

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Location: Cala Llonga

Joined: 9 Sep 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:02am

Regarding ‘non residents’ in Spain come January 2021...

There is no magic plan to legally extend your stay more than 90 days in any 180, unless you become full time Spanish residents, along with everything that entails...and there is much to consider!

I believe Spain would like to make it easier for Brits to extend their stay beyond the 90 day restrictions, but I fear Brussels will object to any softening of the rules as the UK has the audacity to leave the union. This may well cause friction between Spain and the EU. However, we shall need to wait and see what transpires come January.

As a home owner in Menorca, I feel we must either comply with the 90 day rule (they seem to now be in a position to track entries into Spain via the passport scanning system) or take the huge step to be one full tax paying residents.

Having looked into this, I believe we would be financially worse off as Spanish residents, given the lower tax threshold vs UK and the taxation on global assets and all the complexities and costs of accountancy which goes along with that.

2021 will be interesting and may require us all (UK citizens) to be more cautious and prescriptive with what time we spend in the EU.

AVine

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:47am

AVine

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Posts: 7

Location: Salgar

Joined: 21 Sep 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:47am

MNS wrote on Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:02am:

Regarding ‘non residents’ in Spain come January 2021...

There is no magic plan to legally extend your stay more than 90 days in any 180, unless you become full time Spanish residents, along with everything that entails...and there is much to consider!

I believe Spain would like to make it easier for Brits to extend their stay beyond the 90 day restrictions, but I fear Brussels will object to any softening of the rules as the UK has the audacity to leave the union. This may well cause friction between Spain and the EU. However, we shall need to wait and see what transpires come January.

As a home owner in Menorca, I feel we must either comply with the 90 day rule (they seem to now be in a position to track entries into Spain via the passport scanning system) or take the huge step to be one full tax paying residents.

Having looked into this, I believe we would be financially worse off as Spanish residents, given the lower tax threshold vs UK and the taxation on global assets and all the complexities and costs of accountancy which goes along with that.

2021 will be interesting and may require us all (UK citizens) to be more cautious and prescriptive with what time we spend in the EU.

Thank you for your very comprehensive reply, it was most helpful, albeit not really what I wanted to hear. I think we will just have to hold our breath and hope for an amicable agreement, I’ll be the blue person sat in the corner! 

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